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[wan2fly99 38]

Friend of mine updated his to a super dopper computer

Has this and asked me if I would like to buy.    $1700

Intel i7 4790K running @ 4.5MHz

- MSI Z97 XPower Motherboard

- 32GB Corsair DDR3 RAM

- MSI GTX1080 8GB Video card

- Corsair 850W XPower Supply

- Corsair H i115 Liquid Cooling w/ top fans

- Cooling fans front and rear

- Samsung 840EVO 250GB SSD

- Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD

- ASUS CD-ROM RW drive

- Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case 22"L x 22"H x 9"Wide

- Windows 10 Pro 

 

 

If anybody can advise soon?  I was trying to get him to biuld me one but he does not do it anymore for other

 

[Tom Wright 447]

Definitely wouldn't pay $1700 for that, your friend is ripping you off.

The 4790k is a 7 year old chipset circa 2013. It was fantastic in its day and still is relatively good if on a budget, but for that money you could buy a current generation PC!

[Bobsk8 13,057]

I am sold on AMD CPUs, I get good FPS and my CPU is just loafing along. 

[Maxis 1,939]

1 hour ago, wan2fly99 said:

Friend of mine updated his to a super dopper computer

Has this and asked me if I would like to buy.    $1700

Intel i7 4790K running @ 4.5MHz

- MSI Z97 XPower Motherboard

- 32GB Corsair DDR3 RAM

- MSI GTX1080 8GB Video card

- Corsair 850W XPower Supply

- Corsair H i115 Liquid Cooling w/ top fans

- Cooling fans front and rear

- Samsung 840EVO 250GB SSD

- Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD

- ASUS CD-ROM RW drive

- Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case 22"L x 22"H x 9"Wide

- Windows 10 Pro 

 

 

If anybody can advise soon?  I was trying to get him to biuld me one but he does not do it anymore for other

 

Thats a no for me .. we are done with DDR3 and the MB and CPU are multiple generations old. CD-RW drives are no longer mainstream and for the money you can build something much more efficient. even at these insane prices

[737_800 464]

 Tom Wright is correct. You can get an up-to-date (almost) super dopper pc for that money.

Edited March 12, 2021 by 737_800

[wan2fly99 38]

Thanks everybody

[wan2fly99 38]

What ram to get and card to get  if I can get him to biuld me one

[ryanbatc 13,184]

That is basically what I have now except I have 1080 Ti.

Some generous person basically gave me their cpu mobo and RAM and another generous person here sold me the 1080 Ti for a lot less than on ebay.

If I had just bought a new PC I'd give my current system away for cost of shipping.  1700 is a total ripoff!

As for what you want these days.  Either AMD 5600x or intel 10700K , 32GB ram and RTX 3070 or 3080 but they are really hard to find.

[Mike S KPDX 598]

42 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

That is basically what I have now except I have 1080 Ti.

Some generous person basically gave me their cpu mobo and RAM and another generous person here sold me the 1080 Ti for a lot less than on ebay.

If I had just bought a new PC I'd give my current system away for cost of shipping.  1700 is a total ripoff!

As for what you want these days.  Either AMD 5600x or intel 10700K , 32GB ram and RTX 3070 or 3080 but they are really hard to find.

Hi Ryan, I always really appreciate your comments on the Forum, but I did want get a better understanding of what you are stating here.  I too will be looking at a new system this year and have come across some comments that suggest something other then your thought. 

First 10700K cpu, I was thinking that i5-10600 may be better (see: MSFS CPU)

Second 3070/80 gpu.  I was thinking that this overhead is wasted (see: MSFS GPU)

Very interested in your thoughts on this.  Thank you.

[ryanbatc 13,184]

If you're at 4k (or 2k) you'd want the best gpu still. 

One could probably just go with the rtx3060 if they wanted to stay at 1080P

As for the CPU..it seems to be true the fastest is still the best.

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

10600k single core passmark = 2866
10700k single core passmark = 2940
11900k single core passmark = 3764
Ryzen 5800x passmark = 3507

All these processors have enough cores for MSFS, so single core speed should win. 11900k might be faster than the 5800x, but it appears to run even hotter (which is odd given how hot the 5800x runs). It will also suck down a bit more wattage, so cost over time is more expensive. As Ryan noted, any of these CPU's are fine and will make mostly minimal FPS differences in games between each other. The problem is the charts are often showing "best case" results or a test that purposefully put the load on the CPU.

The GPU is far far more important.

If the 11900k really consumes as much power as people are saying, I'd probably go with an AMD this time around, depends how die hard you are on Intel. I have AMD 5800x right now, didn't help my FPS even coming from an AMD 5-3600 (so I treat some of those charts with a squinty eye).

Edited March 12, 2021 by Alpine Scenery

[fppilot 4,462]

3 hours ago, Tom Wright said:

Definitely wouldn't pay $1700 for that, your friend is ripping you off.

 

I have that system (2015) sitting here in a closet and would pay to ship to you if in the USA for only $1,225.00.  It has a GTX 970Ti.  You will need your own storage discs and operating system.

Edited March 12, 2021 by fppilot

[MrFuzzy 2,140]

4 hours ago, wan2fly99 said:

Friend of mine updated his to a super dopper computer

Has this and asked me if I would like to buy.    $1700

Intel i7 4790K running @ 4.5MHz

- MSI Z97 XPower Motherboard

- 32GB Corsair DDR3 RAM

- MSI GTX1080 8GB Video card

- Corsair 850W XPower Supply

- Corsair H i115 Liquid Cooling w/ top fans

- Cooling fans front and rear

- Samsung 840EVO 250GB SSD

- Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD

- ASUS CD-ROM RW drive

- Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case 22"L x 22"H x 9"Wide

- Windows 10 Pro 

 

 

If anybody can advise soon?  I was trying to get him to biuld me one but he does not do it anymore for other

 

Either he's not your friend or he has no idea of the value of his PC.

I would value that PC 800 - 850 $ max and anyway I would not buy a quad core with DDR3 in 2021, even more so if it's to play the heaviest PC game of all times.

Even Alienware has better offers, for brand new PCs with warranty: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-aurora-r11-desktop#configurations_section

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,799]

Below is what you could still use from that PC if you wanted to upgrade it  ( note that transferring the Windows 10 to a new MB will depend if it is OEM or retail and the Corsair AIO may be reaching end of safe life) :

 

4 hours ago, Maxis said:

- Corsair 850W XPower Supply

- Corsair H i115 Liquid Cooling w/ top fans

- Cooling fans front and rear

- Samsung 840EVO 250GB SSD

- Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD

- ASUS CD-ROM RW drive

- Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case 22"L x 22"H x 9"Wide

- Windows 10 Pro 

The following parts you would be throwing away with any decent upgrade:

• Intel i7 4790K running @ 4.5MHz
• MSI Z97 XPower Motherboard
• 32GB Corsair DDR3 RAM
• MSI GTX1080 8GB Video card

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Glenn Fitzpatrick

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