Vote if you don't like automatic pushback @ cold & dark

[Maxis 1,939]

10 hours ago, DAD said:

always here. happens if AI Comm is enabled. Is that disabled on your side? Would explain why auto pushback is not initiated for you

Then turn it off till you are ready to need to use it. 

Thats what i do. I always start cold and dark and one of the first things i do is check to make sure the co pilot ai (AKA motormouth) is disabled until i am ready for him to start talking (usually after filing the FP and getting the AC ready for departure).

 

[ConstVoid 112]

14 hours ago, Maxis said:

Then turn it off till you are ready to need to use it. 

Thats what i do. I always start cold and dark and one of the first things i do is check to make sure the co pilot ai (AKA motormouth) is disabled until i am ready for him to start talking (usually after filing the FP and getting the AC ready for departure).

 

The main problem is that all of the AI options are remembered from one flight to the next, so that if comms or piloting are not explicitly switched off at the end of a flight the next flight will start with them enabled. This is not too serious with comms, as you can open the menu and switch it off before flipping the battery switches, or whatever, but if you have left piloting on this will take over as soon as you click 'ready to fly'.

Now, some may say just make sure you turn it off at the end of a flight, but at the moment a CTD could prevent that and you still have to go through the process of starting the flight, switching off the AI functions, and restarting the flight, to get a true cold-and-dark experience. If all AI options defaulted to off for a cold-and-dark start then this would make things far more usable.

[JimBrown 596]

1 hour ago, ConstVoid said:

Now, some may say just make sure you turn it off at the end of a flight, but at the moment a CTD could prevent that and you still have to go through the process of starting the flight, switching off the AI functions, and restarting the flight, to get a true cold-and-dark experience.

If you did not have the opportunity to turn off the AI stuff due to a CTD, then on next start up go to Options, Assistance and turn them off there. Then set up your next flight as usual.

...jim

 

[Maxis 1,939]

3 hours ago, ConstVoid said:

The main problem is that all of the AI options are remembered from one flight to the next, so that if comms or piloting are not explicitly switched off at the end of a flight the next flight will start with them enabled. This is not too serious with comms, as you can open the menu and switch it off before flipping the battery switches, or whatever, but if you have left piloting on this will take over as soon as you click 'ready to fly'.

Now, some may say just make sure you turn it off at the end of a flight, but at the moment a CTD could prevent that and you still have to go through the process of starting the flight, switching off the AI functions, and restarting the flight, to get a true cold-and-dark experience. If all AI options defaulted to off for a cold-and-dark start then this would make things far more usable.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I just got an unexpected CTD after landing at JFK Last night. So i can see where this scenario may apply especially for the AI auto piloting. Maybe down the line they change it to default to off instead of saving the last AI state.

[ConstVoid 112]

2 hours ago, JimBrown said:

If you did not have the opportunity to turn off the AI stuff due to a CTD, then on next start up go to Options, Assistance and turn them off there. Then set up your next flight as usual.

...jim

 

Thanks Jim. I have to say that after setting most Assistance options off on day one I haven't really looked at that page. I'll give it a try.

[JimBrown 596]

7 hours ago, Maxis said:

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I just got an unexpected CTD after landing at JFK Last night. So i can see where this scenario may apply especially for the AI auto piloting. Maybe down the line they change it to default to off instead of saving the last AI state.

And then there will be complaints from those that want the last AI state saved. 😉

...jim

 

[Tuskin38 7,098]

On 8/11/2021 at 2:03 PM, Bobsk8 said:

and you would not need the blue arrows. 

Only for those who have charts. I like my blue arrows thank you.

  

17 hours ago, ConstVoid said:

The main problem is that all of the AI options are remembered from one flight to the next, so that if comms or piloting are not explicitly switched off at the end of a flight the next flight will start with them enabled.

Not if you turn them off in the assistance menu.

Edited August 13, 2021 by Tuskin38

[Greazer 1,418]

I have seen automatic pushback when using the pushback plugin when in the TBM 930.

[Nyxx 6,996]

On 8/11/2021 at 10:36 AM, SierraDelta said:

If only people would learn to read posts in full before replying ... 3 unnecessary posts in this thread alone.

Well you read the edited version.

[Nyxx 6,996]

On 8/11/2021 at 10:36 AM, SierraDelta said:

Edited August 13, 2021 by Nyxx

[SierraDelta 1,383]

24 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Well you read the edited version.

No David, I read and replied (as did you and others) before Phil edited the original post to highlight that the issue was dependent on AI Comms being enabled - check the timestamps.

Just to set the record straight, all water under the bridge by now 🙂