Clouds Post WU7

[MrBitstFlyer 3,944]

Post WU7 update - anyone else get another 19Mb download 24 hours after?

I've seen some very good weather screen grabs posted recently so decided to have another research hour looking at pixelated clouds. I have on occasions seen some good skies, but mostly poor representation of what the METAR reports.  Obviously the core problem is with the way MS/Asobo are utilising their own weather engine, but I gave it a go anyway.  Unfortunately, REX won again for me.  What is most astounding is the amount of pixelation in the Live Weather clouds - how is it REX can get around this for the most part but Live Weather not?

Boy, am I looking forward to SU8 in the hope of improvements!

KJFK reporting broken at 1600ft and broken at 250. 

REX Weatherforce nailed both layers

 

Live Weather a pixelated/volcanic ash cloud mess with a woeful depiction of the broken layer at 250.  Clouds on the deck or rain reaching the surface, but no precipitation near JFK when the screengrab was taken.

[Nyxx 6,996]

I find you live weather screenshot very odd as there  is a line of "clouds" making a very harsh line right across in frount of the building far right, never seen anything like that before. The building far left also look odd with the building in the middle looking "normal" Looks like a bad photoshop. No saying it is but looks like it.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Nyxx

[MrBitstFlyer 3,944]

Just now, Nyxx said:

I find you live weather screenshot very odd as there there is line of "clouds" making a very harsh line right across in frount of the building, never seen anything like that before.

I think you are referring to the sea being covered in snow in the Live Weather shot!  The sea with REX was water, but live weather showed the Atlantic covered in snow as far as the eye could see.

[Nyxx 6,996]

What about the croped buildings? the clouds are in frount of the buildings ( right side) with a razer sharp line from building to clouds.

Am not saying it is but the more I look at it the more it looks like a really bad photoshop of a sky droped over a landscape.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Nyxx

[MrBitstFlyer 3,944]

34 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

What about the croped buildings? the clouds are in frount of the buildings ( right side) with a razer sharp line from building to clouds.

Am not saying it is but the more I look at it the more it looks like a really bad photoshop of a sky droped over a landscape.

I see where you mean - that is just coincidence because the sea was covered in snow so looks really bright - the line of the snow just happened to be at the height of the buildings. It looks normal to the left.  It is just a screenshot from MSFS using the snip tool.  I was watching the PSXT/RT aircraft for a couple of hours and didn't notice anything odd.

The two buildings far left are almost in line with the snow too.

Edited February 2, 2022 by MrBitstFlyer

[Flyfaster_MTN002 412]

Got the update but NO live weather at all since"?

 

[Tuskin38 7,097]

2 hours ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Got the update but NO live weather at all since"?

 

Weather goes down for an hour everyday round the same time you posted this.

13 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Post WU7 update - anyone else get another 19Mb download 24 hours after?

AIRAC cycle update, nothing more.

[KERNEL32 525]

all clouds are ugly and broken since SU3 and need to be fixed.

[SubtotalGuide 133]

Anyone using live weather since SU7 will instantly recognize this mess. No need for Photoshop.

Another issue with clouds is the change in lighting and colour palette since SU5. It's brighter and more "cartoony". Clouds also have this yellow mashed potato look to them. Someone at the top must've thought it all looked a little too dull and lifelike before.

Then of course the pixelated and shimmering appearance up close.

To prove this I loaded the same weather preset in both Release and WU7. Do you see the difference in quality? All the fine details are gone.

And before someone say "oh but the performance was terrible back then", no. I'm able to run release at full ultra and it's silky smooth capped at 30FPS using RivaTuner on a RTX 3080 and Ryzen 5900X. In fact the current performance is worse now than ever. By optimizing the sim using "clever" tricks like unloading and reloading scenery they've actually made things much, much worse, especially on the ground near airports. All that to make it fit into a BOX.

[KERNEL32 525]

17 hours ago, SubtotalGuide said:

Anyone using live weather since SU7 will instantly recognize this mess. No need for Photoshop.

Another issue with clouds is the change in lighting and colour palette since SU5. It's brighter and more "cartoony". Clouds also have this yellow mashed potato look to them. Someone at the top must've thought it all looked a little too dull and lifelike before.

Then of course the pixelated and shimmering appearance up close.

To prove this I loaded the same weather preset in both Release and WU7. Do you see the difference in quality? All the fine details are gone.

 

 

 

And before someone say "oh but the performance was terrible back then", no. I'm able to run release at full ultra and it's silky smooth capped at 30FPS using RivaTuner on a RTX 3080 and Ryzen 5900X. In fact the current performance is worse now than ever. By optimizing the sim using "clever" tricks like unloading and reloading scenery they've actually made things much, much worse, especially on the ground near airports. All that to make it fit into a BOX.

Curious - how did you get "release" version working? I would go back to that if I could! (Don't care if add ons aren't working)

[SubtotalGuide 133]

You'll have to search for a copy. Multi-player and live weather won't work.

 

Beautiful soft clouds to terrible grainy mashed potatoes, what were they thinking?!

[GSalden 4,734]

20 minutes ago, SubtotalGuide said:

You'll have to search for a copy. Multi-player and live weather won't work.

 

Beautiful soft clouds to terrible grainy mashed potatoes, what were they thinking?!

Indeed a big difference. Thanks for posting the comparison screenshots.

If you would make a post at the official MSDS forums with these screenshots included I will vote for it.

[Pastaiolo 1,690]

Are you sure you are not using reshade or Geforce Experience filters? Because i have never seen things that sharp ever. Grainy clouds, sure. But that level of sharpness never.

[espent 1,534]

2 hours ago, SubtotalGuide said:

You'll have to search for a copy. Multi-player and live weather won't work.

 

Beautiful soft clouds to terrible grainy mashed potatoes, what were they thinking?!

I am curios on how your UserCfg.opt file is looking. Something is definitely not right with those clouds. 

[bobcat999 8,571]

I have never seen anything like the clouds in the bottom picture either.  Definitely some over-sharpening going on with the clouds there.