Combining DLDSR and DLSS

[Fielder 3,871]

I think I have the following explained correctly.

AMD's DSR is not very efficient and hurts performance but improves the image.

DLDSR is AMD's AI version of DSR and it can be combined with Nvidia's DLSS on Nvidia RTX cards. Which the presenter considers to be the holy grail when settings are optimized to bring it all in balance.

 

 

 

 

[aniiran 440]

I'm still using TAA with DX11 because everything else looks like garbage on RTX 2XXX cards.  For me DLSS was a enormous disspaoinment

[cianpars 1,239]

I'm currently experimenting with this having watched the video. Running on my 2k screen at 2.25 (3840 x 2160) was just too much, though it was visually very sharp.  I'm running at 1.78 at the moment and will stick with that for a few days and se how things go. (3413 x 1920).

[Peter Z KCLE_EDDN 368]

What a coincidence, I just watched this a few hours ago 🍻. I’m curious to hear if this has any merit if you’re already on 4K. I have a pretty hefty system which handles MSFS easily in 4K, but I’m not sure I want to mess with it.

Cheers,

Pete

[V1ROTA7E 771]

19 minutes ago, Peter Z KCLE_EDDN said:

I’m curious to hear if this has any merit if you’re already on 4K.

Tried it. Went back to normal. It is nice to have DLSS and no ghosting, but I did notice that there was some stuttering with Frame Generation. Honestly, I'm happy running my native resolution with FG and TAA. It did look a bit sharper, but nothing that was mind blowing. I may try it again at an iniBuilds airport since their fields usually have that weird shimmering on terminal buildings.

[Paul K 1,430]

I tried this earlier tonight on a 2K monitor with a 3080Ti card. I think there's been an improvement in sharpness in the scenery at Duxford. Certainly no problems with frame rates. Definitely worth trying out.

[mryan75 281]

4 hours ago, Fielder said:

DLDSR is AMD's AI version of DSR and it can be combined with Nvidia's DLSS on Nvidia RTX cards.

Both are nVidia technologies actually, which is why they piggyback so well. 

[Fielder 3,871]

Thanks, I thought that was AMD. I noticed that all those setting in NCP he shows are not there if you run multiple monitors and span displays with surround. But in single screen they are there.

Anyway, in single screen I set all his settings in NVP and also MSFS Options. I ran over 85 fps on my 2K monitor at KJFK and over 110 flying over the manhatten skyscrapers. Image quality was best I've ever seen.

With 4070 I use Frame Gen and the 5800X3D is decent (and cheap because it's on an old MB that can only take DDR4 RAM and lowly 600Watt PSU, which is plenty of watts with a 4070. I could not run a 4070 ti with this power supply and would have to remove everything in the case to change that PSU). 

 

[Fielder 3,871]

I downloaded his video to hardisc and also a textfile with links to the video time spots.

NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL
6:11 NVCP DSR-FACTORS (DSLR): 2.25 & 1.75 (BOTH ON)
17:37 NVCP DSR SMOOTHNESS: 60%
18:35 NVCP TEXTURE FILTERING:  HIGH QUALITY
19:16 NVCP ANISTROPIC FILTERING: 16X
19:35 NVCP LOW LATENCY MODE : ULTRA
20:20 NVCP POWER MANAGEMENT: if cpu fan noise is a problem then: Normal, otherwise PREFER MAX PERF.
MSFS GENERAL OPTIONS GRAPHICS
21:30 MSFS ANTI-ALIASING: NVIDIA DLSS SUPER RES.
21:43 MSFS select a resolution: highest (for 2k monitor 3840x2160 = 2.25X) (3rd from bottom is native resolu.)
22:00 MSFS NVIDIA DLSS SUPER RESOLUTION: QUALITY
23:17 MSFS GLOBAL RENDERING QUALITY: ULTRA
24:12 MOTION BLUR: OFF

 

 

[threexgreen 3,249]

What about blurry displays?

[Paul K 1,430]

3 hours ago, Fielder said:

Thanks, I thought that was AMD. I noticed that all those setting in NCP he shows are not there if you run multiple monitors and span displays with surround. But in single screen they are there.

That's odd - I have two monitors, and all the settings he alters are there for me in NCP.

[Fielder 3,871]

My 2 monitors are joined together into one monitor by using NCP's Configure Surround, PhysX. And then the bezel between them compensated away in NCP. That way any dial the bezel runs through will be perfectly round, like if using one monitor.

 

 

 

 

[Fielder 3,871]

If I turn off "span displays" there will be a whole lot more than these few choices in NCP. Like, DSR Smoothness would be listed in the alphabetized drop down menu.

 

[mryan75 281]

3 hours ago, threegreen said:

What about blurry displays?

Mine are crisp as can be. 

[cianpars 1,239]

15 hours ago, cianpars said:

I'm currently experimenting with this having watched the video. Running on my 2k screen at 2.25 (3840 x 2160) was just too much, though it was visually very sharp.  I'm running at 1.78 at the moment and will stick with that for a few days and se how things go. (3413 x 1920).

Update.  Having done a number of flights with high density addons (where I know I am running close to the edge) I am noticing a heavy drop in frame rates in some of these areas. It's very crisp and looks very nice, but if I continue to use it, I will not be able to fly in a few areas I like.  I probably need to experiment with turning down a few other settings and see if the quality for  performance trade off is worth it over the longer term.

I'm sure this mod would work well enough if you didn't have any performance limiting addon aircraft, airports or photo sceneries.

Edited December 11, 2023 by cianpars