PMDG 777 EFB

[737_800 464]

I am watching the stream of blackbox and he is showing the FlightFactor 772 for Xplane, I was watching it thinking it's the new PMDG and was really impressed by it. I noticed that he is not flying the pmdg when he used the EFB.

I can understand why the use only one EFB for all their aircraft, however, to be honest I don't like it. I think it was special to have the original Boeing EFB, I will miss this feature for sure but hope if many people dislike it, they might implement it. However, I can see that it's not economical to maintance different EFB. I am sad about that.

[Farlis 2,443]

13 minutes ago, 737_800 said:

I am sad about that.

I'm not. That thing is ancient and clunky.

It's like whishing for a 777 with steam gauges.

 

[Bdub22 1,730]

I’ve read this like 5 times and still can’t understand what you’re trying to say, 

[Farlis 2,443]

He thinks Boeing's own proprietary EFB that can be used as a company option in the 777 should be part of PMDG's 777 as an alternative to the Universal Flight Tablet.

This idea came about because the Flightfactor 777-200ER for Xplane has it.

[LRBS 996]

They had one incomplete for the 748 and 777 in P3D. I expected to see one in MSFS2020 for the 737, 747, and 777, but I'm afraid they look for shortcuts even if it was done before. As usual with them, prioritizing profit over upgrading or fixing recurring issues across their products. Very disappointing. 

[F.Alonso22 4]

I prefer the Boeing EFB too.

[Bobsk8 13,045]

Not even on sale yet and the complaining begins.😉

[JRBarrett 3,286]

12 minutes ago, F.Alonso22 said:

I prefer the Boeing EFB too.

With that EFB you would have no Navigraph flightplan import, no charts, no ability to set aircraft options or control ground equipment. Though some current 777s have the original Boeing EFB, many do not, and some that once had them, have removed them in favor of tablets

[kdfw__ 549]

42 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Not even on sale yet and the complaining begins.😉

And the usual suspect(s). 

[LRBS 996]

39 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

With that EFB you would have no Navigraph flightplan import, no charts, no ability to set aircraft options or control ground equipment. Though some current 777s have the original Boeing EFB, many do not, and some that once had them, have removed them in favor of tablets

Jim, while I'm away from the T7, I've never heard of any company removing the EFB in favor of tablets. My company is authorized to use tablets and yes, they did acquire a few T7s without EFB and some with, but they never removed them. As you know, removing parts/components is very difficult, especially when they work. I'm not denying it because I don't know and have never heard of any airline doing that. 

Regarding the FPL import, charts it was available with the EFB, for aircraft options, or control ground equipment I think that is done within the FMC options. 

This field of aviation is intriguing, and the business surrounding it is no exception.

[JRBarrett 3,286]

6 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Jim, while I'm away from the T7, I've never heard of any company removing the EFB in favor of tablets. My company is authorized to use tablets and yes, they did acquire a few T7s without EFB and some with, but they never removed them. As you know, removing parts/components is very difficult, especially when they work. I'm not denying it because I don't know and have never heard of any airline doing that. 

Regarding the FPL import, charts it was available with the EFB, for aircraft options, or control ground equipment I think that is done within the FMC options. 

This field of aviation is intriguing, and the business surrounding it is no exception.

Aircraft options and ground equipment control were in the FMC (and I believe still are), but there was a significant demand by PMDG customers to have those settings in the EFB because many other add-on aircraft have them there.

[threexgreen 3,259]

9 hours ago, LRBS said:

They had one incomplete for the 748 and 777 in P3D. I expected to see one in MSFS2020 for the 737, 747, and 777, but I'm afraid they look for shortcuts even if it was done before. As usual with them, prioritizing profit over upgrading or fixing recurring issues across their products. Very disappointing. 

How is it a shortcut to develop something new from the ground up (new EFB) to replace something else (old EFB)? That doesn't make any sense. It's more work, not a shortcut.

They decided to do away with the old EFB because it's clunky and not popular anymore in the real world and because they decided to develop a uniform EFB for all their aircraft with more features. This has nothing to do with prioritizing profit over upgrading or fixing issues, especially since they are, in fact, upgrading from the old Boeing EFB.

[sloppysmusic 396]

4 minutes ago, threexgreen said:

old EFB because it's clunky and not popular anymore in the real world

There you have it. Multiple instances in that post of the modern mindset of why you must spend more money again and again every day until you pass away . Because what you paid for yesterday which was great is now no longer great because it is old. It's agism but applied to machines not people. 

Ironically in opposition to another saying. "They don't make em like they used to". 

Me, myself, I'm getting clunkier and less popular in the real world each day. Please don't expire me just yet I'm having too much fun 😁

[threexgreen 3,259]

2 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

There you have it. Multiple instances in that post of the modern mindset of why you must spend more money again and again every day until you pass away . Because what you paid for yesterday which was great is now no longer great because it is old. It's agism but applied to machines not people. 

That's one hell of a way to dramatize what I said. People have been urging PMDG to develop a new EFB. So now they're doing it and are adding more features, making it better than the old one. That's called progress. Leaping from there to capitalism and agism is quite the stretch.

The ironic thing is that one point of criticism with PMDG is that they don't listen to customers and fail to innovate by recycling old stuff from older products. Now they're listening and building an enhanced EFB, but this is bad now because they should have stuck with the old one. It's unreal.

[pmplayer 9,809]

9 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Not even on sale yet and the complaining begins.😉

Thats a normal procedure here at AVSIM..🤪

cheers 😉

Edited Tuesday at 10:11 AM by pmplayer